In a new interview with Zane Lowe, bonafide rockstar Marilyn Manson was asked about his relationship with Philadelphia rapper & Manson superfan Lil Uzi Vert. He explains their first encounter saying, “I’m at this hotel and I’m having dinner with Rick Ross, who said his dream is to work with me. He ghosted me a bit. But the same night, I hung out with Lil Uzi after we had talked. And we talked a lot. He ghosted me also. I don’t know if by the time this airs, he will have still ghosted me.”

Manson continues, “He said he wanted me to help him find older women. I said everyone is older than you because you just turned 22.”

Press play on the audio clip below to hear the full-length interview between Marilyn Manson and Zane Lowe via Apple Music.